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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:17 am 
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Hi,
When trying to load ABS filament the temperature is moving around the 235 °C but it gets never stable so the filament wont be loaded in.
Could be something optimized changing the PID values ?
Loading PLA it takes some time until filament will be laded having the nozzle temperature moving around 190°C.
I checked the terminator if it is mounted correctly... everything is fine here,
When printing PLA the temperature is moving from 188°...192° so why it it not possible to set the load temperature tolerance to a bigger value.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:31 am 
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Hello,
The PID settings are optimized for printing at 190°. You can automatically calculate the PID settings for other temperatures:

• Remove the bottom plate and connect the printer to your computer
• Open the vertex Nano software, connect and go to Manual control
• Manually send the following gcode: M303 S230 C5
M303 is PID auto calibrate
S230 is setting the temperature to 230C
C5 is after reaching temperature 230, do 5 cycles up and down the temperature.
• You can see from the log, the PID Autotune starting
• You will get results from the log below
• you can save the new PID settings by sending the following: M301 Pxxx Ixxx Dxxx (replace the xxx with the values you found)
• Than save to EEPROM use: M500

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:59 pm 
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Dear Vel678,

I assume with "Open the vertex Nano software" you mean Vertex Nano Repetier V1.6.2, right?

I've used this after having installing the FTDI USB-COM driver v2.12.26, connected the USB cable, but were unfortunately unable to establish a serial connection. In Repetier I choose have chosen the following Printer Settings: Connector: Serial, Port: COM4 (as shown in the device manager), Baud rate: 250000 or 9600, Transfer Protocol: ASCII, Reset on Emergency: Send emergency command, Receive Cache Size: 127, Communication Timeout 3s, No Ping-Pong ticked.

What is wrong? Why don't I get a connection?

Is there any alternative via SDcard to follow this procedure? Could you send me a file for otpimizing the PID to print at 235° or 240°?

Your support would be much appreciated!

CU
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:13 am 
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Dear Vel678,

Further tracing via USBView let me think that the FTDI USB-COM driver v2.12.26 isn't installed correctly due to a mismatch of the Vertex Nano VID & PID and the driver software: By manually updating the driver, "USB Serial Port" apprears in the device manager and seems to operate correctly, however, "USB Serial Converter" won't show up and isn't installable.

If the VID&PID don't match, it's likely the wrong driver... Which would be the right one?

I really need your support!

CU Lino


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:42 am 
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I have also tried "USB-SERIAL CH340" from the C:\Program Files\VertexNanoRepetier\driver. It installs smoothly and seems to run properly according to the device manager, however, the Repetier always says "Disconnected" :-(

Please help!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:39 pm 
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Finally, with the most recent driver version 3.4 from the chipset manufacturer (http://www.wch.cn/download/CH341SER_ZIP.html) I got in touch with the controller.

I performed the PID optimisation via M303 S230 C5, saved the new settings via M301, and stored it to EEPROM by M500.

However, the temperature always stays below 235 °C floating around ca. 231 °C and printing doesn't start. The temp. controller goes briefly up to 235 °C but then switches off and the temperature dropps immediately.

What to do now?

So far, I'm not too amused about my Vertex nano, and I would expect some support from Velleman...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 1:55 pm 
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I have seen where 220C works well with ABS.
You should try it.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:39 pm 
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hello, i have the same problem

start print job
homing
heating up
going to start position... nothing happens !
it is heating and heating arround 230C but it is not starting to print.

i performed PID, nothing...

i flashed the firmware, nothing...

i try'd with SD Card and Software, nothing...

also not amused ! Burnd a lot of time for nothing

any help from vellemann ?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:42 pm 
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automatic homing, works !

also offset calibration.

but "Z" is still blinking on the display. maybe this is the reason while not printing ?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:25 pm 
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Hello operator666,

could you fix your problem and print with ABS in the meantime ?
If yes, how has you fixed it?

Since one week I have also a K8600 (my first 3d-printer) and it seems my printer has the same problems.

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Burnum


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